Combining 5U MOTM and Synthesizers.com modules in the same cabinet

5U is a modular synthesizer format. List of 5U Manufacturers

Module Height The height of 5U format synthesizer modules is 8.75", which is equal to five vertical units in a standard 19" equipment rack. (That's why the format is called "5U".) 5U modules typically use 1/4" connectors and plugs for patching.

Module Width The width of 5U modules varies. Some manufacturers use the width of the original Moog modules (1U = 2.125"), and as such, these fall into a sub-format called "MU" (for Moog Unit). MU module manufacturers include Synthesizers Dot Com, Club Of The Knobs, Krisp1, MOS-LAB, Moon Modular, STG Soundlabs, and Modusonics. Other 5U manufacturers, like MOTM Synthesis Technology, Oakley Sound Systems and Modcan(the B-series), use a slightly narrower width, (a 2U wide panel is 3.485 inches wide). This is an important factor in mounting your modules. Since the module widths are different, the mounting holes are also in different positions. Thus, you can't mount MU and 5U modules in the same row in racks that use metal pre-tapped holes. Refer to the "Mounting Considerations" section below for more information.

Power Requirements Power requirements for 5U modules are usually +/-15VDC and 5VDC. See the section below on power supplies for 5U systems.

Refer to the List of Modular Synth Equipment Manufacturers page for a list of 5U module manufacturers.

Power Supplies for 5U Systems
(The following information comes from SandyB's excellent thread, here.)

All modules from the 5U manufacturers need a +/- 15v power supply. Frac modules and Wiard 300 series also use +/- 15v. Some 5U manufacturers also need a 5v source – specifically Synthesizers Dot Com and some of the newer MOTM Synthesis Technology modules (e.g the MOTM-650 midi-CV interface.)

Most 5U manufacturers sell suitable power supplies:

- Synthesizers Dot Com sells +/-15v and 5v supplies - MOTM Synthesis Technology sells 2 supplies, one with only +/-15v (MOTM 900) and one which also has 5v (MOTM 950) - Cyndustries sells +/- 15v supplies - Modcan sells +/- 15v supplies

 Distributing Power 

If you’ve only got one manufacturer/format then the easiest thing to do is to stick with their power supply and distribution system. Here’s what each uses:

Synthesizers Dot Com  Synthesizers Dot Com use a 6 pin connector to get power from the power supply to modules.



Power is distributed from the power supply via a power harness which contains a number of these connectors. They sell 2 models: the small power harness has 20, the large has 40.



MOTM Synthesis Technology  MOTM use a 4 pin connector on most modules – those that only need +/- 15v. These are the same power connectors that Frac and Wiard 300 series module use. Some of the newer modules, that also require 5v, use the same type of connector but with 6 pins (not the same one as Synthesizers.com use)



Power is distributed from the power supply via power distribution boards. There are two main versions – one with only 4 pin connections (i.e. +/- 15v only) and one with a mix of 4 and 6 pin connectors (so you have +/-15v and 5v)



Modcan & Cyndustries  Modcan and Cyndustries have the same type of connector as MOTM to distribute power to modules except they only use a 3 pin version which provides +/-15v only.



Power is distributed from the power supply via a distribution board. The Modcan one (which is completely compatible with Cyndustries modules) looks like this:



But wait – I’ve got more than one 5U format! Now it gets interesting. There is no one way to distribute power to a mix of 5U formats. Here are some off the shelf solutions:

Synthesizers Dot Com & MOTM Synthesis Technology  If only want to add one or two Synthesizers Dot Com or MOTM format modules to a system mainly of the other format then Synthesizers Dot Com sell their QMPSA adaptor which convert between the two formats. This adaptor also provides a 5v source so you can run Synthesizers Dot Com modules off a MOTM +/-15v power supply.



For more than a couple of modules this probably isn’t the most cost effective solution though. For more modules it’s easier to use one of MOTM’s convertor boards – MOTM 995. This gives you a combination of 6 pin Synthesizers Dot Com, 4 pin and 6 pin MOTM connectors and can be connected to either a Synthesizers Dot Com or MOTM +/- 15v and 5v power source.



The other option is to use a Synthesizers Dot Com power supply with a power harness to connect to the Synthesizers Dot Com modules. You can then strip one of the 6 pin connectors off the power harness and, using the colour-coded wiring guide on the Synthesizers Dot Com site, wire the harness directly to one of the two main MOTM power distribution boards that are pictured above – they have binding posts that make this easy to do. If you don’t need the 5v for your MOTM modules simply snip this wire short on the Synthesizers Dot Com harness and tape it up.

Modcan & Cyndustries  Adding Modcan and/or Cyndustries is a relatively straightforward task and in many ways you can do the same things as you do to connect Synthesizers Dot Com and MOTM together. The only difference is that you need to account for the fact that Modcan/Cyndustries use 3 pin, rather than MOTM’s 4 pin connectors.

With Modcan probably the easiest option is to ask Bruce to terminate the power cables in MOTM style 4 pin connectors – he’s fine with doing this. You can then use exactly the same type of distribution system you’d use with a MOTM or MOTM/Synthesizers Dot Com mix system. Remember Modcan are +/-15v only – no need to worry about 5v for them. This would also work for Cyndustries modules although I have no idea if it’s something Cynthia will do or not – can’t hurt to ask I guess!

The other option would be to use a Cyndustries power distribution board, which provides connectors for 4 pin MOTM and 3 pin Modcan/Cyndustries. This could be wired to a suitable power supply using binding posts as with the MOTM distribution boards.



STG Soundlabs Distro Board  A further option is the distribution board made by Suit and Tie Guy. These can be ordered with a combination of Synthesizers Dot Com, MOTM and Modcan/Cyndustries connectors. They have a set of screw terminals for attaching the power supply of your choice. Details can be found from the page in the links section below. STG can also provide suitable cables for powering Synthesizers Dot Com modules from this distribution board. Here's a picture of one (which is now residing in my cabinet )



Mounting Considerations
(From sandyb's excellent post, here)

Here's some information on mixing MOTM-format modules, (which includes Modcan b series), into a Synthesizers Dot Com cabinet. This section only discusses wooden cabinets - not racks. There are three main things to consider. First, how to physically mount the MOTM-format modules--(height issues). Second, what number of each module-format can you fit?--(width issues). Third is power considerations, which is discussed in the section above on this page.

Height Issues

Synthesizers Dot Com and MOTM-format modules are technically the same height. The real difference is the fact that Synthesizers Dot Com-format modules have a lip at the top and bottom which MOTM doesn't. Here's a picture of the Synthesizers Dot Com lip:



And here's a picture of a MOTM module showing that the module is straight with no lip at the top or bottom:



The mounting holes of MOTM-format modules are also placed at a slightly different vertical height to those on Synthesizer Dot Com modules. This means that if you place a MOTM-format module on the floor of a Synthesizer Dot Com cabinet its mounting holes will not reach the top rail completely. To counter this, you need to make sure that any MOTM-format modules are centered in the rails before you drill mounting holes for them. The picture below shows in red the gap left in order to centre the module.



Actually mounting MOTM modules is fairly straighforward. The rails of Synthesizers Dot Com cabinets are made of wood and can be easily drilled out for MOTM. The holes for MOTM do not interfere with the Synthesizers Dot Com holes that are already present. Mark the holes making sure the module is centered as mentioned above. Drill the hole with a 1mm or 2mm bit. Then screw in one of the mounting screws to "tap" the hole before mounting the module. The MOTM mounting holes will be closer to the edge of the rails than the Synthesizers Dot Com ones. The picture below has MOTM holes marked in green and Synthesizers Dot Com in red:



Here's a picture of the two formats together (don't worry about the gap here - The modules pulled to take the mounting hole photos hadn't been replaced yet.)



Width Issues

So now you need to consider how many of each module you want in the case. The widths of single space modules are as follows:

---1U Synthesizers Dot Com = 2.125 inches ---1U MOTM = 1.75 inches

22-space Synthesizers Dot Com cabinets have rails that are 46.75 inches wide.

The table below shows all the combinations of Synthesizers Dot Com format modules and MOTM-format modules you can have in a 22-space Synthesizers Dot Com row. Specifically, it shows:

---number of single space Synthesizers Dot Com format modules ---resulting space remaining (in inches) in cabinet ---number of (whole) MOTM format units available ---the gap (in inches) that will remain when the case is full

As you can see some combinations work better than others. Eight Synthesizers Dot Com format and seventeen MOTM-format spaces is the magic combination where you have no gap at all. Note that this table will only work if you mount all the MOTM-format modules in a block together and the Synthesizers Dot Com modules together. Putting them in-between each other would, if you used the pre-drilled Synthesizers Dot Com mounting holes, mean more gaps. You could drill different Synthesizers Dot Com mounting holes in the relevant place(s) to leave the smallest possible gap.

List of 5U Manufacturers (the link to the 5U page is not working so I put this list here)

Analog Craftsman

Club of the Knobs

Cyndustries

Curetronic

Corsynth

Grove Audio

KL-module

Modcan B series

MOTM (Bride Chamber)

MOS Labs

Moon Modular

Macbeth

MegaOhm

MU

Oakley

Rob Hordijk

Resynthesis

Suit and Tie Guy

Synthetic Sound Labs

Synthesizers.com

Synthesis Technologies

Trouby

Zerosuminertia

Links
Modcan power information: --http://www.modcan.com/bseries/bmount.html

MOTM Synthesis Technology power supply:  --http://www.synthtech.com/motm900.html

MOTM Synthesis Technology power distribution boards: --http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=180 --http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=182

MOTM Synthesis Technology to Synthesizers Dot Com adaptor board:  http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=183

Synthesizers Dot Com power components:  --http://www.synthesizers.com/q101.html

Synthesizers Dot Com power wiring information: --http://www.synthesizers.com/technical.html

STG Soundlabs distribution board:  --http://stgsoundlabs.com/products/distro.htm

STG Soundlabs power cable: --http://stgsoundlabs.com/products/power_cable_mu.htm